Seeking after a Sign (or two)
Filed under: all that jazz by Téa
Most of us would be somewhat familiar with the scriptural warnings againt being a seeker of signs.
Mark 8: 11-12
11 And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.
12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.Luke 11: 29
29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.D&C 46: 9
9 For verily I say unto you, they [gifts of the Holy Spirit] are given for the benefit of those who love me and keep all my commandments, and him that seeketh so to do; that all may be benefited that seek or that ask of me, that ask and not for a sign that they may consume it upon their lusts.D&C 63: 7-12
7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
8 Verily, I say unto you, there are those among you who seek signs, and there have been such even from the beginning;
9 But, behold, faith cometh not by signs, but signs follow those that believe.
10 Yea, signs come by faith, not by the will of men, nor as they please, but by the will of God.
11 Yea, signs come by faith, unto mighty works, for without faith no man pleaseth God; and with whom God is angry he is not well pleased; wherefore, unto such he showeth no signs, only in wrath unto their condemnation.
12 Wherefore, I, the Lord, am not pleased with those among you who have sought after signs and wonders for faith, and not for the good of men unto my glory.
Maybe my situation is different, though, because most of what I find here is about demanding signs of the reality of the living God, not necessarily signs intended for guidance in life. Maybe it’s not, and I’m looking to justify myself in what I’ve decided. I’m interested in your semi-biased opinion, dear reader, so I hope that you will share both your reaction and any experiences you feel comfortable sharing. (Bear in mind that lany lack of religious inclinations does NOT exempt you from leaving a comment, because I know you, dear reader, and you are respectful of me and my beliefs)
I’ve sought answers to questions in prayers since my very first attempts prior to my baptism. I’ve had so many times they were answered in unexpected ways, sometimes much much later than when I had originally inquired. Sometimes those answers were recognized as such right away, other times I saw God’s hand well after the fact.
I thought a lot about it today, trying to recall I’d ever put some kind of “God, if B is right, please make LO occur.” request out there, or conversely, “If B is wrong, make it so LO does not happen”.
I find it unlike the lightning swearing of truth to another person, “If I’m lying, I’m dying”. If God doesn’t strike me dead, I’m honest without a doubt. Ayup. Check out my bridge for sale, right this way…
I have seen signs, though, ones I cannot deny. Little miracles, tender mercies as Elder David Bednar calls them, sprinkled throughout my life.
Are these examples sign-seeking, or just really dumb, or both?
“God, If she breaks her leg, then I’ll know I’m not supposed to marry her.”
“My boss giving me a large raise will be the answer for me keep this job, God. If not, I know you want me to quit.”
“If I’m not supposed to drink this coffee, God, have the cup crack before I do it.”
“God, I will go to the next college that sends me a letter.”
“If someone doesn’t say “Hi” to me at church, God, I’m not coming back.”
“Have a puppy show up at my door, God, if I should have a pet.”
If it’s put in more general terms, though, does it change anything?
“God, we need a sign to know which way to go in all of these paths. If this is right, God, someone else will take this particular action. If this action is not taken, we will know that this desire/course was not right.”
So let’s say that this action happens. Could the course still be the wrong way? Was it not a sign after all? Will God grant a different means of expression (the whispers of the Holy Ghost, for example) to direct my paths for good, knowing that I’d hung my choice on something else?
Richard and I fasted and prayed to know if we should pursue a fifth child after my sudden illness in 2004. We received an affirmative answer to our prayers through the Spirit but other confirmations followed. A priesthood blessing from a home teacher unaware of our desire, the ready availability of medications deemed safe for pregnancy. Anya’s arrival had other signs surrounding her conception and birth.
That period of our lives is over now. The larger decisions nowadays concern education, career moves, living situations, etc. Still life-changing, long lasting choices for the most part. Ones that I’d hate to be wrong about, so I find myself asking for a sign. A specific answer from God. Now, in this case, there’s a deadline, a time appointed with which I have nothing to do. So come Wednesday night, the coin flips. We’ll soon see if my calling heads means anything in the eyes of God.
Am I part of a wicked generation? I sure hope not.
I don’t know, I think there are some signs that are important to ask for. Lets say you are contiplating a move, and seeking for a good neighborhood. Maybe driving by you see a playground full of kids, giggling and happy. Would that perhaps be a sign? I think sometimes you can ask for a specific set of things. The scriptures also say, knock and ask. We can ask, we don’t always have to have a list of choices and make a choice for an answer. IT is okay to ask for guidance to find the choices, and I think that can lead to signs.
I hope that makes sense. Since you are not specific in what you are flipping the coin for, it is hard to give advice, opinion, or just plain, I have no idea. :)
(I love the humor in your post by the way.)
Comment by Tanya 11.10.08 @ 8:22 amI don’t think you’re asking for a sign in the same way the scriptures are referring to, or in the “if I shouldn’t do it, have this cup crack,” type of way either. As far as needing some guidance in your life, I think it’s okay to need some sort of “sign.”
Comment by hillari 11.10.08 @ 9:24 amI think once you have made a choice it is alright to ask for a sign or confirmation that the choice is right. When I moved to Phoenix 6 years ago, I made the decision to move, but things weren’t falling into place to allow me to do it. There was much prayer on the subject of when the time would be right. When the company I was working for closed its doors suddenly, I had my answer. So some signs are ok to ask for, others like I will get a pet if a puppy comes to my door, not so much.
Comment by Mary 11.10.08 @ 11:48 amNope, can’t do it. Can’t comment and be respectful about signs, when my experience with them is that I begged and begged for one (my testimony) and never got one.
I wish I could help. But I would only make things worse, and that’s not the sign of a respectful response (pun intended!)
I love you, I wish you peace.
Comment by Granny D 11.10.08 @ 3:58 pmRead D&C 8.
Comment by Tanya 11.11.08 @ 3:41 pmAre we not told in the scriptures to pray about everything…in Alma for one place. Also, I think the feelings we get from the Spirit when something is right or the bad confusing feelings when something isn’t. I am so thankful that I know that and have it in my life and am conforted in knowing that.
Comment by MomR 11.11.08 @ 3:51 pmA definite shortcoming, Tanya, of vagueness to be sure. I think it’s akin to early pregnancy for me–waiting to tell many people because of previous miscarriages. I don’t want to excitedly share hopeful eggs that haven’t hatched yet =/ (Glad to know my humor hasn’t completely evaporated yet)
*phew* Glad to know I’m not alone in thinking it was different than those condemnations, Hillari.
Welcome Mary! (A side note here to those who saw them, Mary is the one who crafted the adorable matching neckties for the wedding!)
I have had many thoughts about the bulk of your reponses, so many that I’m going to turn my mammoth comment into another post. Thank you all so much for commenting!
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